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Speaker 0 00:02:12 Good. You have taught me about microphone gains. Well, so I've been working on that. Thank you today. We have our guest Ebraheem Showpad is a music producer accordionist mixing in, in, in mastering engineer. He started to develop his listening skills when he was 10 years old, he started learning music theory in 2013 and got more focused in his music production around 2018. Abraham's goal is to open his own studio and have his own record label. Ebraheem also tissues folks, music privately, and Robic lessons. You can find him and his work on YouTube, Spotify, and SoundCloud. And I will put on the link on the descriptions below. And if you'd like to hire his talent, you can find him on sound, better.com or contact him directly. We shall also put his contact info and the description below Abraham's show path is a friend of mine. And I call him the amazing Abraham. He is a genius and I am blessed to have him make music for me. So please lock on the amazing Abraham to the show. Walk on Abraham.
Speaker 2 00:03:47 Thank you so much for the introduction.
Speaker 0 00:03:50 Yeah, definitely. So tell us a bit about who you are and what you do.
Speaker 2 00:03:58 Um, okay, so, so, uh, as I said, my name is Ibrahim short brush and, uh, I am 22 years old. I live in Jordan, um, my origins, uh, some occasion from the caucuses mountains in Russia, the south, the north Western side of Russia. And, um, actually I'm studying Arabic, um, nearly, uh, graduation, uh, level actually I'm senior students. So, uh, I'm studying and also I work as a feed on some music. I do a thing and, yeah.
Speaker 0 00:04:39 Awesome. So on your free time, like me, people ask me, what do I do on my free time? On my free time, I keep doing my art. Is that the same for you? Or do you do other things on your free time when you're not doing a music production or studying a rabbit?
Speaker 2 00:04:58 She time is spent on reading books and playing games, books, like text games, which are like, uh, the text based choice games that you make the choices for the character you're playing and all. Um, um, and then maybe even, uh, and, uh, like the language is that some of that's why I love playing these games and reading so many books about medieval and before even, uh, because, um, newly, I started to love history. I wasn't liking history and that's why I stopped at anything about this study, especially, uh, music history, because, um, attempts or the Miami. So about how music, uh, began that chick and yeah, it's about reading.
Speaker 0 00:06:00 And one of my favorite mid evil game is age of empires. You heard of that?
Speaker 2 00:06:06 Yeah, I heard of it actually. And there is a version of that game, which is accessibility that I can play because I am a blind, so I can play so many games. And I heard that there is a, uh, edition of the game, which is accessibility, but I didn't try it yet.
Speaker 0 00:06:27 That's awesome. I like how we like the same things. And, um, I like a lot of things that are not moderate, anything I would say pre Victorian. I like, because I liked how the arts of things are rich and how, when people did things, they, I feel like they took more time doing it in the art form way as of today's just made for money and for consumption. All right. So how, and when did you find out that you loved making music?
Speaker 2 00:07:07 Um, I was maybe 10 or 11 years old when I started finding that I like me, it was like, oh, you had a small digital piano that I it's like, it's all your digital piano. And I was like really happy making, uh, like improvising songs on, on that digital piano and those really enjoying, um, how, how sound mix us happy or sad or gives us so many feelings that we were not experiencing in, in our usual life. So I started thinking, how do they make these songs that we love? And, uh, it stayed, um, sleeping, uh, for like eight to use until I think 40 years ago, I stopped learning how to, uh, books, music, and like how to put the instruments together to, to make a song, uh, uh, from scratch. And I started taking, um, music, production courses and mixing courses, so I can, uh, make my own music and, uh, lets other listeners be happy listening to my music. So yeah,
Speaker 0 00:08:29 That's awesome in your music was I'll put a link when your friend Roslyn sent me your YouTube, I was blown away and I'm like, who is this guy? Like connect me to him. It's your music is very, uh, amazing. And as you mentioned prior, do a conversation how you make music from your heart to other people's hearts. And I can definitely feel that it's a great connection. So it is making music easy.
Speaker 2 00:09:01 First one, I started making music. I thought that was an easy job. And I put this instrument that, that one hand, but it's not, it needs like any few aligned, uh, norms, options, and a cup of tea or coffee. So you can have a much clearer Akila, uh, vision of, of the music that you're making. And, uh, it's only needs time. It needs so much on you.
Speaker 0 00:09:37 Yeah. Well, I haven't tried it fully, but it seems daunting. And of course I think if you're passionate about it, it will be, you'll feel more easy because you will be more into those challenges, like going on a field and taking all the energy from it and feeling good. So is there, is there a family and friends supportive of your music career?
Speaker 2 00:09:59 Yeah, absolutely. <inaudible> only happy about that. Um, so like everything I make, they, they there's songs too. They sell to like cheer for me and yeah. Continue to do more smaller ones you can do. And in the beginning I was like, yeah, they're doing it because they love me. And they wanted to support me and so on. And therefore that's when I started seeing what else do that are studying music production or, uh, studying music CD. Um, I saw they're doing, and I was like, no, I'm doing something different. Of course. So obvious. And after that I started telling my friends and family, okay, I know that you are supporting me, but she is criticized what I'm doing so I can develop more and do more things much better. Yeah. Fortunately they are so much supportive and always giving me, uh, the interview to then to continue with them doing
Speaker 0 00:11:04 That is amazing. It is very important to have, especially if you're a family, family who can be supportive. Then if you have friends who are supportive as icing on the cake and that's usually makes someone more into doing their art and have more confidence. And as we all know, love loving all of our art and confidence of our art starts with, from within, but as humans, we need other support. And I'm very glad that you have that.
Speaker 2 00:11:35 Sure. Yeah. Without they're supposed to actually really feel doing this work. I don't see any support, so, okay. I'll stop them. And you might do many things like amazing things, multiple of those and any support you stopped doing
Speaker 0 00:11:51 That. Definitely. And I like how you're saying that it, and I do the similar things to, I ask for real criticism. I say, Hey, like, what do you think of what I've done? Or even if they give me a feedback and I will do what I wanted to do anyway. But I like how people will tell me the truth instead of saying, oh, you did great. Just so I could hear it's I could feel better. I actually do not like it comes from a good intention, but I don't like the, oh, because I like you, I'm going to tell you, you did great.
Speaker 2 00:12:28 That was his story. Uh, more things than building things up. So, uh, the, the real criticism, it's like, you're building things up. It's not, oh yeah. It's, it's really great. You're doing something so great. And, and, and his, uh, voice is saying, no, no, no, it's bad. Okay. Now let's give him something good. So he can enjoy. That's not good to activity. Yeah. The criticism it's much like if all you do something wrong yeah. Telling me I'm doing something along goals, I know that I have to fix it. And yeah, it is, this is the only thing I know how to fix it. So I'll fix it. So tell me the truth.
Speaker 0 00:13:15 It helps it's provost growth. Do you perform anywhere?
Speaker 2 00:13:19 Actually, I perform at, uh, weddings, gauze because I am so Cajun. I play for a circadian weddings music. Like we have a session within the wedding. I play these occasion music, um, for about, let's say one to two hours continuous playing. Yeah. That's the only place I wish I can perform, uh, other places and other places about to enjoy that. And they don't imagine how life is Like you can use, like, if you were saying, I am a musician and drove them here, they say, um, it's not going to feed you, but actually it's something, both doing a set. That's all, man. And do it yourself. But it's not something that you do. I was like, no guys, Hey, um, you, you can do many things in terms of music, teaching, playing, doing anything actually. And they say, no, no, no, no, it's not good. So I imagine that's aligned. And imagine if you perform and sweat.
Speaker 0 00:14:29 Oh yeah. I totally understand that. I wa when I was younger, I used to like to draw a lot. It's funny. I stopped drawing, but I think, I don't think, well, just like any skills I could totally improve in the future, but I never consider myself as a great drawing artists. And I wanted to go to be an artist to go to college, to study. And my parents would tell me the same thing. It doesn't put bread on the table, which I understand generally, of course, people are looking out for you, but that can be a dream killer or can, if there's a word for, I like the word inspiring, but disparaging, maybe that's the word that can just vary someone to do what they want to do. And even if he doesn't bring bread on the table, you could say, Hey, go pursue that because that's what you love, but make sure you do something else that brings the whole bread on the table. And I think that's what people are missing to say. They they'd all say because in New York city or anywhere, I would think it's good to have more than one thing, because that one thing is auto service, or you cannot do it anymore. Then you need to have different sources of income or even different sources of happiness in life.
Speaker 0 00:16:03 Yeah. And music brings people together. So in a wedding, they say, well, music is blah. Then what do you do in a wedding or any celebrations? So, right. So that, that kind of thinking is not in that kind of thinking is everywhere. Really not only with music, but what I've noticed a lot with art form. When I moved to New York, I've met a lot of painting artists or of enjoying artists. And they often said, I'm a starving artist. They're proud to say that. And they were as a batch of owner, tend to Peter themselves and talk in a pessimistic way. And I've when I've heard that I've refused to call myself a starving artist. I said, I will not starve. I will do this because it feeds my soul and I'm happy. And if someone likes it, I'll often say which people might call arrogance, but I don't care. I'll often say my art is for me and a few, like it, then it's a blessing onto you. And if you do not like it, it's okay to,
Speaker 2 00:17:06 Yeah. That's, that's it, he, I think it wasn't as mine. My thinking,
Speaker 0 00:17:11 Right? Because we are born with gifts, talents, or whatever, you could call it and sharing it to other people is a blessing because you could have kept your amazing newness to yourself and enjoy it. And that's fine. And it keeps you whole. And if you share it with someone that is pleasant to the ear, or if you draw to something for the eyes, pleasant to the eye or present to the heart or whatever it is, or if you cook is pleasant to your taste. So if you're an amazing cook and you don't share that, then you not blessing others. So I think that's what people are missing. People feel like a lot of artists are little people who won't amount to anything, but we're not artists. Life will be gray and boring and no sense of anything. And we are blessings to the world. I think a lot of people know that, but, but that's not where the monetary part of life is put on. So how is life in Jordan in general, since you mentioned,
Speaker 2 00:18:20 Because I admit in, so there's a funny country, Jordan. Uh, I can say it's, it's not like you can manage yourself, uh, uh, in terms of it's see money for living, uh, you are not getting money as much as you pay that city on the big problem. And Jordan, like if they fix this thing, um, so many things will be zoned. Like, um, people get in terms of how much do we pay. They get a lower salary, uh, for, for what they're paying. And they also many texts. We don't know where they go.
Speaker 0 00:19:06 Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:19:07 But that's the only problem other than that life is really good. Actually, there are so many places it's that you can go to work to Jordanians always tend to say there was nothing that we can do in Jordan. There are so many things. And, um, it's about like enjoying what, unfortunately all are busy, kept busy, actually, they are kept busy and they have jobs and, uh, families, uh, in their lives and they don't have the chance to see what to do, unfortunately.
Speaker 0 00:19:44 Right. And you just sit something that inspires me and I've often thought about it. As you mentioned, people say, oh, there's nothing to do in Jordan. I'm in New York city, the greatest city in the world and the greatest country in the world. And I said, there's nothing to do in New York city. So it's all like perspective is inside, whatever you go like, but looking at something else, let's say a few, someone's looking at Dubai. They, they want to go to Dubai or they want to go to Paris or London while the people in London are tired of London.
Speaker 0 00:20:25 That's interesting. So, um, a curiosity question, if you knew an answer to that. So, and I know there is rich and poor anywhere because I've noticed in some countries I'm not educated about this, but from what I've noticed, if there is a normalcy of life, people can just live. Is there a rich, is there a gap between the rich and poor other rich getting paid more? Or what makes someone rich? Is it the lineage kind of a thing or the poor poor because of a class or lineage kind of a thing or other poor poor, because they're not managing their money for everyone making equally or what's, what's that like, do you know?
Speaker 2 00:21:09 No, I'm actually, the thing is there is a gap between the rich and pool. I'm not talking about Jordan. There was a gap and I have to get up my task, like a small agility of like at some majority, a smaller group of people that are in between the pool and data marts, the actually have a percentage, uh, we'll say that people are 20%, the people that are between rich and poor people. And so they are like maybe five to 10% sport. It's not because they can't manage, uh, the money it's about life. And Jordan is, is, is becoming much expensive. Uh, actually for what you're getting at things like the, the, the mind or the human is changing towards the unnecessary, he wants to buy the unnecessary and leave the necessary away. That's a really big problem. People, uh, have the money because of some of my chairs that they I'm sitting on, let's say a place that they are managing and that sets people off, like everywhere they can manage the sort of like, yeah, they can manage what they can.
Speaker 0 00:22:36 Right. I see what you're saying. So yeah, with the NES and necessities of life, actually this year, well, it started around late 2019. I can save money. Well, like truthfully, the only thing that's miss, I'm very grateful for my life overall. But the only thing that I would love more, and that is missing in my life is a career that pays well and well means even S 60 can above. And someone might w say, well, 60 K is pretty low and you're not shooting high, but because I have lived the lowest at the lowest $20,000 in New York city, or even in Boston, and I lived a nice normal free life. I wasn't saving a lot, but I live to my content. But as I get older, it is wise to save money because 2020 have sodas that jobs will close or you might get sick and money will take care of you.
Speaker 0 00:23:38 Pop probably will take care of you still to have that in mind is very important to save money and make more. But let's say if I live a healthy life, all my life until I'm 95, then depending on inflation making 20,000, the little one 25,000 a year and two years ago, 35,000, I was content in, in the past. I've bought excessive amount of things that I did not need. I, wasn't not living a SIM simple life and you've right. People are not buying the necessities in, but because of 2020, I've had to reevaluate my life in it. In two years, I've paid off about $35,000 of debt. That's not even included the interest in trust. I'm guessing over 10 years probably was 45,000 or more. Yeah. And I'm grateful that I've had the ability to pay it down. Also living a nice fulfilled life. I'm not deprived of anything in my life.
Speaker 0 00:24:43 And I'm very grateful for that. I'm not depriving of health, food shelter, or even the things that I enjoy. And I think the things that I enjoy materialistic way Lee is through my credit card, which is good and bad if you're not able to manage it well. And I think if I didn't have a credit card, I would live a Muslim for life. I'm not regretting what happened and I'm just learning from it and moving forward, I'm going to save and I'm totally paid my debt down. And actually at work yesterday, people were talking, we were working in a perfume store and we were talking about, oh, I want this. I want that. And then at the end of the job, they get, they all gave us a gift bag. And I give my gift bag to one of my colleagues. And I said, give this to a wife and he's, and everyone was shocked because it worth a lot of money. And I said, there is, there is not anything that I want in my life anymore. As in, of course, as human, I want things, but I have everything that ever wanted in my life. Materialistically sign need that really? And I said, the only thing I would want more that's like material is money itself.
Speaker 0 00:26:04 And with that money and stuff, I can sing more and invest more. And I can build my career more and I can build my, uh, my company and I can hire more people to do more things for me. And then with more money with that investment, I can hire people and I can give people a livelihood and they can build my company more. So that's the only thing not liking. I don't want to say I'm lacking that, but I want more of that as a growth, because I'm very grateful. I think 30 making $35,000 two years ago is a lot, but for some people it's not, but my thing is gratitude. I'm grateful with everything. I saw a quote that says gratitude is not, uh, is not about the amount that you got. It's about being grateful for what you have, regardless of getting more or not
Speaker 2 00:26:57 The sentence, actually the quilt meaning.
Speaker 0 00:27:01 Right? So I'm very grateful for that. But of course, another friend also told me when I was telling her, oh, I'm fine making 20. She says, but let's say free speaking, either a spiritual way or religious, where she says, God wants us to be rich. Like him. No, no spiritual person is a poor person. And that really struck a chord with me. And I said, yeah, that's true. God owns all of the universe. He gave us all of this things on earth. Why should I be content being poor? That is not spiritual. That is not God. So that makes me change my perspective about that. So what is your favorite jar of music that you like to listen to?
Speaker 2 00:27:45 Well, uh, about genres of music listening to actually, I don't have, if ever John, if I want to choose one, I might choose maybe wrong music or sometimes Latin and Schawk, I don't have, because as a musician, I must listen to every single jungle I can, even if I don't like it.
Speaker 0 00:28:16 Yeah. Yeah. I, are you familiar with the John Rockwell regrets?
Speaker 2 00:28:22 Yeah, but I don't like, like that general accident, I don't listen to so many, um, songs from jumped, John and I found out how, how it's defining itself from other girls. Like,
Speaker 0 00:28:38 Oh, I did find it obnoxious. I do not like regroup at all, but there's that one person who does rigatoni and I like his music. And I think I like it because of him the way he does it. But if anyone asks me what I just was John rides, it's like is rigor dumb, but I I'm pretty open to mostly anything. But when I listen to Spotify or the radio, I tend to go for classical or world music, as you mentioned or Latin. Yeah. That's what I would go for. But I listen to everything else in between. If I listened to pop, it will be of course, a Brittany Spears of Michael Jackson or Madonna, et cetera, but not very good tone,
Speaker 2 00:29:25 But, uh, you know, also lacking music or instruments. My, uh, my Arabic music and certain like in one time, at one time UBS, uh, well, and, uh, Spain, um, back like in the medieval era, they've, they've made so many. And so it says, uh, on, on, on, uh, like Spanish people and the Italian also, uh, got some insurance and then music is kind of, um, somehow I know, I know what's up and like the Oriental music is so I can define if there is a touch or Orientalism there, the world's music, actually, I like it because it sounds amazing. Actually, you, you can like check out so many thinkings, like so many, uh, I felt that there were so many ideas and, um, more than one mind or thinking, uh, about music, how they like the idea, uh, the instruments, like they also only have so much wind in someone's mouth instruments, strings, and percussion instruments, Mattel. They didn't have the idea between one, uh, place to another specifically in the wrong jungle. Um, it's amazing. It's amazing. Definitely.
Speaker 0 00:31:01 I agree. I love these.
Speaker 3 00:31:18 Uh,
Speaker 0 00:31:24 Do you have a favorite John ride that you like to make?
Speaker 2 00:31:28 Uh, folk and all the music more than full folk? We close on this occasion. I make folk music for, for this occasion music I make is like, cause for the also occasion songs just to take care of or, um, old music. Yeah. Keep it keep deep life. And, uh, the world music is like so amazing. Uh, I don't, uh, feel like modding. Oh, and I do this.
Speaker 0 00:32:05 Do you have any challenges in life?
Speaker 2 00:32:07 Like people might say, uh, blind, this is a challenge for me because I'm like, uh, I lost <inaudible>, uh, 20, 21. Yeah. Six years ago. I look, I forgot when I moved most visions and that's why it's important. And, uh, I lost the region in, um, 2016. Yeah. The beginning of 2015 after that. Uh, I, uh, I didn't tell much defense when I will seeing, because although I was able to see back before 2015, uh, multiple, my vision was poor after two meters long, I can see nothing. And even if you in front of me and you're looking at me and I can see you, Eaton's very well. So that's helpful what my vision was. And after I lost it completely, uh, I didn't have much difference. Other than that, I started to listen more. I started to keep my mouth shut and, uh, uh, I started to think more actually, you know, our vision sometimes keeps, uh,
Speaker 2 00:33:26 Yeah, this starts to a lot, vision can start to destruct you a lot without you're thinking of it. Like if you can do those eyes saw about, let's say half an hour, when you want sitting between your friends or with your friends, actually, um, you can listen more, see the, uh, behavioral failure way of speaking way of speech. How do they pronounce for whoops? What are they doing? You can imagine it's more than you're looking at them version this time after I lost division, people said, it's a challenge. It's a challenge. I was like, no, actually I felt that I'm getting better. And it's often just division it's Thanksgiving phone actually. Um, uh, if I want to see that I have a challenge, I have one challenge actually, which is I'm working on fixing it's, um, it's an all three alternating. Um, if you want to book, you can just read it and yeah, but for me specifically, the books, uh, and the PDF form, <inaudible> the imagine if the handwritten, whoa, no software can recognize what they already think because our topic, and I think it's not like English, English, even if you have enjoyed it.
Speaker 2 00:34:58 I mean, it's sitting up in the boy and it's softer. It can manage. It's so fun to recognize the letters what's available, you know? Um, so that's the only challenge to that is I can't read my favorite books because no one, uh, and according to them. So the only challenge, it's a small shed injection. It's not the big, yeah, that's it.
Speaker 0 00:35:23 I totally feel you on that is, it's a very inspiring story in how people can implement your story into their daily lives. And I think that brings us back to gratitude and being in the present, getting something, being grateful for it. And of course it doesn't that mean you don't want more, but if you, if you dealt a hand, you make that hand work. So that's what you being doing. You make whatever you have work instead of sulking and complaining about it and not having, not living your best life. And that's very inspiring.
Speaker 2 00:36:02 Well, actually, when I lost my vision, I suffered myself for like two months, uh, short. I was playing music back then. And, um, uh, when I lost my vision, I gave my accordion, someone can fix it for me. And it stayed, uh, with him for like two months by then. I didn't know how to use my phone with this clearly though. And I didn't know how to use my TV. So I, I sat that on the mindset of, I know suffering. I suffer thinking, okay, I've lost my vision. That's, that's a sign that I need to, to know what it means. Actually. It means something good for me. I don't know what it is, but it's something good from God. That's why I mustn't stop here. You know, I lost my vision or what then like kills your hand and, and tell you it's on your back and you stop using it. You cannot do something. What does it mean if you lost your vision or your hearing of your, uh, maybe smelling, uh, the, the smell thing and audio tastes, it's not something big actually you can manage and the brain can, can compensate and deal with the loss and yeah, that's, that's still complaining and continue life something usually.
Speaker 0 00:37:35 Right. Right. W I was going to ask you, how do you turn your challenge into your, into assets? And you basically answered that question already, and that's very inspiring and which was going to be followed by, did you ever wish anything was different, but you already answered that question without me asking you, stating that basically you think God, and then you've Excel in certain ways that you probably wouldn't be for. And so that, that's great. What are the greatest things in your life currently?
Speaker 2 00:38:11 Uh, the <inaudible>, uh, okay. And there is like so many things that have changed the thing that's, I am grateful for. And it's the greatest as a it's. Um, I stopped thinking of changing my major from studying Arabic to another one. I wasn't thinking that studying <inaudible> language will really give me something and to be a social with you. I wasn't liking study a little bit when I entered university, uh, in 2017, every single semester, I was like, okay, I'm going to change. I'm going to go studying English, literature, maybe, uh, Spanish literature, and, uh, anything else other than Arabic go to change it, let's say for seven stone and see how hard happens. Unfortunately, I stayed and, um, I started seeing things using the Arabic language itself because I started going deeper and deeper into the Arabic language. Um, and seeing more things mental than before, even in music, like my, um, my, my master's degree, I can have it. Um, I'm willing to take it outside of not if I can have it. So now on my, of my master's degree is about why, uh, the Arabic literature, students, most study events of music, so he can criticize poetry and poems. So it's about, um, mixing of it with music. And no one really talked about this topic or give it at night. So I'm really happy that I can do something, uh, for the Arabic language and for other people that they can send on my back and go jump
Speaker 0 00:40:25 A lot of circumcisions in Jordan. What's what's the relation with Jordan in?
Speaker 2 00:40:33 Yes. Okay. Then yeah, we don't teach 200,000 and Jordan's population is 11 million.
Speaker 0 00:40:42 And why are there circumcisions in Jordan? What's the history.
Speaker 2 00:40:47 Okay. And back in 1760 C Asha stuff and a war between yeah. With this occasion tribes, and then, because they wanted the regions that they are, and, and some occasions are living there and there's sorts of war between them, between the oceans occasions as occasions, and like so many Arcons, um, the war <inaudible> about 100 years, like, uh, after that's the ultimate, uh, army took the lifts occasions to the side and they want to get it to all us occasions, those occasions about the, a lot of them, um, to Jordan, Syria, uh, Palestine, um, and, uh, Lebanon and Turkey, whoever dies on the way, we'll let some time and who can die or like he is, he is suffering. They can them and they so, so many and to the sea. Yeah. And that's why they they're living in Jordan. And some occasions on Jordan Strong 1864 and 1865 know the first time that they came to <inaudible> as in 1865,
Speaker 0 00:42:30 How many languages do you speak because of that?
Speaker 2 00:42:34 Uh, I speak English as the occasion, so occasionally not too much. And I'll tell you why, because a little bit of Hebrew language, I learned some Hebrew because I went to Palestine, so many, like such, it's not so many times about like six or seven times. And I wanted to learn to know where they're speaking and yeah. Why don't speak some occasions so much because, um, there was a gap between my, uh, my England fathers and mine, and they didn't teach them how to speak. And it was a secret language between them and my parents aren't speaking anymore and they don't understand that occasion. So I said, okay, I don't have the language. I don't know. What's the traditions, what are the occasion spirits, spirits, or the, how do they think, I don't know, what's the music like, so are you most? And they have to, you know, uh, an occasion and I learned, and I took, uh, two courses actually, um, with, I stopped because of university to study the most like,
Speaker 0 00:44:03 And very interesting. I don't know the history of it all, but I love world history. And eventually I would love to learn all the country's history, especially the middle east history, pre world war one and world war two and post, because I, I know a little bit about how those areas were divided or conquered because of Russia and Europe and United States, et cetera. Very interesting. So
Speaker 2 00:44:35 About, about a occasion, if you want to know something and it's not the most attention, um, there is a book called, uh, documented evidence about circadian war. Like if you only documented the evidence once occasion, you'll find the book, um, it gives us so many documents and get us so many, uh, two stories about what happened and yeah, it's an English.
Speaker 0 00:45:05 Oh, good to know. I will Google it. And sounds good. So going back to music, uh, so you had, you have been working on music for me, and I'm very grateful for that. What, how do you feel about making music for
Speaker 2 00:45:41 When, you know, so many asked me about, about, uh, like, like your question and the answer is I feel comfortable and also happy because I want, and I think I've told you, I worked for someone to, um, make music for children. Um, the tools about, um, teaching them how to speak properly, the alphabets, the, uh, Arabic, uh, sentences and grammar and so on and so on. And, um, you wanted to help me actually doing that. Uh, he said, I want to assign a belief for me. And in certain was a for the song. I was like, man, this is not the sound. But like I said before on it, it's like 15 seconds max, even for a novel. And he was like, no, no, no, no, <inaudible> full song. I said, okay, for example, some tickets, and this is a song that you're going to take. And, um, he was going to make me, uh, to do so him and I go up for him and do everything for him. And after that, he'll say goodbye. I think so much. I was like, no, it's not going to happen. Yeah. That's why I'm really happy working with you. And I'm so comfortable. Um, um, I wish that, uh, Y um, next job or, or future job is as comfortable as once I'm walking score. You actually
Speaker 0 00:47:30 Thank you very much. And I'm very, and we expressed that to each other, so many times, I'm so grateful and blessed that you decided to put my vision into reality, everything it's funny how I'll have a melody or something, and then you turn, it is still the same, but you turn it differently so much better. And yeah. And, and it's, uh, it's your passion and it's your willingness to do it and your passion and your love for it. That makes it great. Because prior to meeting you through Roslyn, and I'm grateful meeting your friend, Roslyn, that I've gone on Fiverr, I've gone on Facebook and I've talked to so many people. I feel like a lot of people are still focused on the money and to make something that their production was not great, because they just want the money and want to move to the next thing.
Speaker 0 00:48:31 And I do respect and understand that. But when I work, even when I work for money, I put my passion into it. I do catering. I do not dislike hearing. And I do not love it either as in a passion, but I respect the job and I respect what I do. So anything I do, I do it perfectly. And I think if people implement that in anything they do in their life, this is why I think if people do things are, are inspiring and things that they love, they will Excel at it. But if you do something that you just don't care for, that it will show into your work and you care for it, and it shows into it. And not only you're doing, let's say, if you're doing something for stuff you get on doing great, but you do any for someone else and you do it great as well. And that's amazing. So I think,
Speaker 2 00:49:27 Uh, there is, there is a, uh, an Arabic, we call it a Teddy's, it's a quote from, uh, <inaudible>. He said, if someone wants to make something, he must make it to perfection. So I'm putting that quote in front of my eyes, because it's all my, my religion actually. And that's why I believe in, and I believe that if you are believing in something, you will, you will get, um, what you're believing and, and, uh, about what you are saying. Uh, they do it for money actually, when I play for weddings, uh, for sure, I, I get paid. And, um, every single time they asked me about how much I, uh, get, um, and I tell him my price, like they're saving, man. It's like something that's expensive, why you're getting this much. And you're playing is amazing. And you deserve more than that. I say, because I'm playing for, like, for passion. I love what I'm doing. I enjoy what I'm doing. Y mixing, enjoying, uh, my, my joy with money. It's not going to leave useful. So if you want to pay me, pay me for my time, the only, I don't want being paid for music because music is life. And I paid for my, like my joy. I really enjoy what I'm doing. So that's why,
Speaker 0 00:51:06 I don't know if we talked about this in, and you also have blessed me with the amount of the payment that we talked about in the beginning. And let's say, if I, if I had a lot of money, I would totally, I think I would totally pay you more than what you were asking, because you're doing it for the pleasure. And that's from your heart in the monies for your time, et cetera. Uh, but all of these things have a worth because it's a gift that, yeah, everyone else can make music, but yours is unique to you and people will pay you for Ebraheem like when, uh, and as I mentioned prior to meeting you, I wanted to work with other people and what they were giving me. I don't know if it was because they weren't make any efforts or was because of their talents.
Speaker 0 00:52:03 They weren't what I was looking for really, in some people I even wanted to settle for it. And when I asked for a simple thing, and, and again, I'm blessed by your, the way you do things for me, because when I was asking for a simplest from other people, I think I asked for 32nd because of 15 was too short to kind of got it a sense of it, because I was pretty new at that as well. And they would give me on the 15, which I was like, okay, that's the industry, that's fine. But then it was really crappy, like really bad. And then they say, hire me now. And then I said, well, I'm not content with the simple year. It gave me. So I think they probably felt cheated because they gave me a simple and I re injected it. And I respect how they feel when I asked you of something you are so friendly, so eager and so admirable and your energy.
Speaker 0 00:53:05 Now, of course, I never met you in person, but even through texts, I believe in energy. And I believe electronic can transfer energy. And I actually feel your energy. And I think you gave me a 32nd or more in the first song that I had, and you transform it into an amazing thing. And I was just like, okay, this is the guy, like without a doubt, without even thinking about it. But let's say, let's say even if I wanted to, let's say, even if I was a cheater now wanted to cheat you. What I've discovered in life is, and not just for me, maybe you thought of the same thing. Maybe not. I've been cheated through things before. And the way I see it is my heart is so big. So deep. Like the ocean is so vast, no one can cheat me from it and no one can take anything from my spirit.
Speaker 0 00:53:59 And what I give, if someone wants to cheat me, you know, what would they cheat? They cheat themselves from not getting more. But if they're appreciate what I give them is a blessing onto them, because then we can still have a connection. But if they want to cheat me, they cheat themselves from having that connection. So that guy's shitting himself. Because if you look at his life, that's his prerogative. He is not going to have any more amazing Abraham. That's what I think it's the truth though. I mean, have you thought about that? That's why I, I thought about when it comes to my art, when, when it, I used to think, I used to say Poochie me, I don't. I say people cheat themselves now because I feel like that about my art in the Western world, I don't know about enjoyed it, but in Western world, people call that arrogance and that's their prerogative, but I call it confidence and I call it knowing who I am and knowing my spirit and part of the podcast.
Speaker 0 00:55:08 What a reason out have the podcast is to, to inspire people through stories and through tell, and to tell people do not be ashamed of who you are and do not let others shame you and do not be in guilt and do not judge yourself. So if I know I'm great that what I do, and the funny thing is, I don't know if it's a Western thing or the world thing, just because I say I'm great. It does not mean you are not great. And I think that's what people are confused about. I am a great, because I know I know what I know myself best. Like I know Ebraheem based on our interaction, but you know, you bring more than I know you bring. So therefore, if I say, I'm great, you are also great because we are all great uniquely. And when we get together to do something, we do great music.
Speaker 0 00:56:03 I love the stuff that we do because I bring something to you. And I say, Hey, let's see if I bring flour to you. And then you have the water and then you create dough and then someone else have the spices and they create something else. And then we have pastry and that's why people are missing. They thinking, oh, water is the greatest thing. Okay. It, it, it is by itself, but water cannot create bread by itself without the flour in the, in the oven and the heat and the energy to put into the molding. And so it all wonderful in general. So one last question I have is, uh, what is your process of making music? What goes through your mind?
Speaker 2 00:56:51 One, first of all, it depends, uh, depends on the, the, the client's wishes. First of all, I put it in front of what, what, uh, what's his, uh, needs, what's his, uh, what's his vision of, of the, the project. Um, and that's, I stopped eating the song. Uh, so feeding the lyrics, see, what's he thinking? What's the meaning of this world in this context? Uh, if it gives it a sad meaning, okay. The music must be said in this box. Um, I started putting the general idea or the general vision of the song if he sends me, uh, uh, MLD, or like he's saying, it's Hammad for me, homeless for me, uh, stick with his amenity for like reading the lyrics itself. If I find that I can, um, modify some things here on there. Yeah. I'll do it for sure. Because, uh, she is not a musician.
Speaker 2 00:58:06 Um, I can fix where he, where he like me and some things that he doesn't know that he made them, uh, by mistake. Like he made them stick here. Yeah. I can fix it for him without telling him it's a mistake. Well, him, he gets a happy or when he like, uh, listen to his song, how it transformed and enough of that, if, if he sends me, if you have sent me the lyrics without, uh, saying a singing them, of course, I have to, uh, item melody for the units. And after the amount of the, I stopped putting long groove, baseline and afterthought, I stopped arranging instruments. <inaudible>
Speaker 2 00:58:58 um, I want this instrument to play countermelody with the, uh, lead the vocalist, let's say, or I want in the course as something to, um, give the energy to the truck and do this thing, like a typical arrangement, like when you're listening to a song that has a certain, uh, time, or like certain, let's say five or 10 seconds of that song that never leaves your mind. It's like, you're, you're humming it. Like, ah, that's, that's brought was really amazing. You forget that song. And, uh, yeah, that's part of the, it's like the, the touch of heart. I felt that I have to put this here to give my energy for the spots. I do this thing actually. And, um, after that, uh, I stopped mixing it and then send it to, to who's going to sing it. And after he scenes that's, I am, it says voice. And, um, think of the, the things that need to be fixed. And I said, that's my studying. And yeah,
Speaker 0 01:00:43 That's so great art from it. That sounds a lot of process, a lot of work, but yeah, but I often say when again, when you're, when you have passion in your work, then work is fun. So you must have fun doing it and it shows in sure. What's next for you? Do you have any next project you want to do in your life besides music? Or are you just in a university or do you have any like big goals? Are you just doing those things you're doing now,
Speaker 2 01:01:17 I'm telling you about my project or wasn't going to do, uh, actually you said something about having from, well, if I feel myself not ready or I'm not fully into what I'm doing, and I'm not thinking purely or items of mind to think, I don't talk like me for a week. I don't talk because I know that it will turn into a bad projects, bad, uh, results. So that's why I stopped working until I get much better thinking. And I have pure mind to walk with
Speaker 2 01:02:03 And about the projects, uh, when you said from the beginning, I wanted to open my own studio and have my own, my coordinator for that. I want to, to, uh, fulfill regarding teaching and, and, and the Arabic studies I've told you about my master's degree. And as I said, I was thinking of taking, or, um, maybe about, uh, or like along the same topic, criticism and music and Arabic and that the child. Um, and that's what, that's what I want to teach in university. Like, so I'll so many subjects that we take that that's valuable naturally. And students taking the, the, the, the subjects they want to take it's because the most, they, if they don't take, it's like, there's no subject to be open for them to take it in the future. And I wanted, like, I wanted to, um, teach the subjects since I'm a Janning, it's like an Arabic, you know, there's the poem.
Speaker 2 01:03:30 Um, it's an Arabic, it's a speech. Or like, let's say it's at school. So there's make one. You can use it as in, when you're speaking, uh, online, like reciting the poem. There is <inaudible> philosophy under that. And they want to teach that philosophy. No one speaks about it, snow and give a, give anything. I was like, guys, this is, I think, to be taught to you and yeah, during what I'm doing, let's say I'm on a future right now. And I'm teaching during that. Uh, I think I'm going to be opening a studio cause without having music, I don't know how, how long ago to continue living.
Speaker 0 01:04:26 Yes, it does. Same thing too. I maybe 2012. I'm not sure I was hanging out with my friend and then I spoke about suicide and then he was, he was very upset with me, but it's because I said, I, if I, I feel that if I was not autistic, of course was an autistic. I would have a normal life, but to some artistic, I need to do art. And if I, if I'm not able to do art, because I enjoy it. And back then, I thought I needed my art to make me money at a rough time making money. So I was like, I'm better off dead. Really. If I have to go do something that I don't want to do and then put my art away because art is my life. And so I guess, because it was a topic suicide, it was very touchy for him.
Speaker 0 01:05:19 So he was upset. But then because I had that conversation, which was really important, I said, oh, I can still do my art and do something else simultaneously that makes me money so I can do my art. And yeah. And I'm very blessed and grateful. Like I'm able to pay you to do something that you love already. And I love it too. I'm not making money from it, but I love it enough that I can do another job that I'm fine with. I don't hate it. I'm fine doing it. And I'm very blessed and grateful to have that job in my life to be able to pay someone else to, to work with me. So I found a solution through having that conversation. Although the conversation was basically dead in the water. It was just like me. Sometimes it's good to speak outside of yourself. So you can hear yourself and have that conversation. Or sometimes like you say, close your eyes and in think or meditation because I meditate in the morning and it's a go back doing that at night as well. When I close my eyes and have no distraction, I have more answers to things. So that's really, yeah. So that was like a little story about that.
Speaker 2 01:06:34 Yeah. I told you about the challenge. Like I can treat the books you want to, um, uh, one of the, uh, things I'll tell you one to make. After I opened the studio, I want to have a section or part of the building. Actually. I'm planning of making it at either a huge building. Uh, one of the sections as like people who are passionate about reading correctly so they can record audio books.
Speaker 2 01:07:11 Yeah. For who can read the books, same, have experienced. And I don't want them to experience what I've experienced. So that's why I'm planning to do that thing. And, um, giving them some privacy because having someone sort of eat for you, you feel something not not side to actually you are not comfortable. Like, okay, he's eating for me. I don't want to bother him telling him, okay, can you repeat this pizza? Uh, could you repeat the page again? It's not comfortable. So if, if, if it's a book within the hands and he's, they can, uh, rewind four words, do anything. The look is there,
Speaker 0 01:08:02 Right? That is a beautiful vision. And I trust that it will happen. I've noticed that in my life. And you've probably noticed that in your life, definitely you have noticed that in your life, because the first thing you got was the, uh, if I can say piano, the electronic. Yeah. Yeah. And then look at where you are now instant with me. I've I thought of singing and people say, you can't sing singers. Don't sound like that. You sound that my personality is I don't listen to most of that per se anyway. But the second thing is I said, who says, does this a standard of singing? If God gives me a voice, even if singing sounds like that, that, but I like it. And someone else may like it. Have they ever heard of rock and roll? Have they ever heard of you? If you heard that song? I don't know how to, uh, what's the John HRA is a rock and roll where people sing like this and people love that. It makes a lot of money. So, so who says as a standard of singing, it makes me happy and I have an accent and I sound bad. And so what I like it and others like it good for them.
Speaker 2 01:09:18 Well, actually, if you know, the, the it's called deal building, uh, uh, people, people only, you know, it's only like that for a few minutes.
Speaker 0 01:09:30 Oh, that's nice. Are they saying any words or just, just,
Speaker 2 01:09:34 Uh, and then on who was saying, uh, like singles and they are not, I was like, okay, what? It's beautiful actually, the way that they control their, uh, their way of singing the style is, is difficult. Actually it's as either having so many difficulties controlling their briefs, uh, their Vulcan codes, the way that they sing, it's difficult, but yet it's great. So many mindsets, like what what's he doing?
Speaker 0 01:10:06 I agree. I agree. Well, thank you so much, Abraham Showpad for this conversation, and I've learned so much more about you and I'm grateful for you so quickly. How can someone who wants to reach out to you reach out to you?
Speaker 2 01:10:21 Okay, well, um, email is shin action. It it's B S I N a C T O n.com. That's the email that they can contact me and, um, the YouTube channel about him, short brush and my name, and also they can find me on the sun, but that's a connection also.
Speaker 0 01:10:48 Great. Again, thank you. And it's a pleasure working with you, and I'm glad that we create great art together. Uh, I think so. And I, I bet you think so too, because you're creating it. So yeah. Thank you for being on this show and I'll see you around next time.
Speaker 2 01:11:09 Thank you so much for having me in this. Ah, thank you. Have a good one. Bye
